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Everyone else is saying it, so: first submission of 2013! :la:

These two characters are a mated couple belonging to ~LanexCyteri, a good friend of mine. The green one is Promoneius, and the gray is his mate, Amithya. I've been wanting to draw something for him for a while, so he lucked out and got to be the first guinea pig in my one-drawing-per-week goal for 2013.

Speaking of which, I really cut it close this week. I declared this drawing done just barely before midnight. ^^; Ah well, one down and only 51 more to go!

This is a scene that I have been meaning to draw for a very long time. I got the idea from seeing that, when I clasp my hands, I can wrap my index fingers together so they look like two dragons giving neck-hugs ('cause dragons can do that, after all :meow:). I've actually began drawing something similar to this twice before and never carried it through. I'm glad I finally did, I'm pretty happy with the result.

I'm continuing to work on the techniques I learned from =Khezix. She gave me a great way to lay down a basic sketch and do the shading, though I really need to work on how I handle the colors. Some places look too gray, some places look like they're colored too thickly... Ah well, practice practice!

Comments always welcome! Please feel free to point out any improvements I can make; I really want to get better every week.

Medium: Wacom Bamboo tablet in GIMP
Time: 3-5 hours (not exactly sure, it took several sittings)
Original Dimensions: 2480 x 1754
Completed: 5 January 2013
100-Theme Challenge #2 - Love
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~GriffinPhillis Apr 27, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Awwww. ^.^
I actually faved this one a while back, funny that I come back around to you now. XD
But nice job! ;p
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:iconzeimyth:
Hee, so it took you a while to comment, but eventually you got around to it! :meow:

Thanks, I'm really glad you like it. ^..^
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:icongriffinphillis:
~GriffinPhillis Apr 27, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yup! XD
Finally. :U
:icondragonkekeplz:
And I do! :3
No problem. ^w^
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~GriffinPhillis Apr 27, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes, yes it did. X//D
:icondragonkekeplz:
And yush, I do! :3
No problem. ^.^
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~Khezix Jan 7, 2013   General Artist
I'm behind on my messages, but I'm slowly catching up!

First, I love the one-drawing-per-week goal. I kinda wanna try that. :dummy: I haven't uploaded anything yet this year. :stare:

Anyway, I'm really excited to see more art from you. The little bit of green light reflecting off Promoneius onto Amithya's neck looks really cool, and does a good job of breaking up that otherwise dark, shady area. I also notice you incorporated some purple in her shadows. :)

I would recommend smoothing out the shading, it's a little sketchy here. When you're doing the greyscale sketch, try starting with a larger brush on low opacity and build up shadows with drawn-out, smooth strokes. Then as you go into the details of the wings and face, reduce the brush size. The smoothness of the shading will also smooth out the colors. :)

Good luck with your weekly challenge! :D
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:iconzeimyth:
Not to worry! I know what that's like. :) Besides, good replies are worth waiting for.

Doooo it! :dummy: I'm doing it because I don't know any other way to make sure I practice drawing regularly. ^^; I really want to get better.

Thanks! :la: Heh, yeah, one of the biggest things I got from your stream was the importance of reflected light. I noticed what a great difference it made in separating different objects in the drawing, especially in the dark spots. I still lack a bit of the... finesse required to pull it off properly. That's kinda the point of practice, though, isn't it? Learning to use technique. Yeah, I did put some purple into Amithya's shadows. I figured it was the logical compliment for yellow sunlight, and it added some color to her unsaturated hide. :D

Hmm, that's a good suggestion. I was already thinking about doing a few drawings just greyscale, and that would certainly help me get some smoother shading practice. Really, the whole picture could have been a bit smoother; between this attempt and your one-hour drawing of Zephyr, there's really just no comparison. XD I will definitely use your suggestion of a larger brush. For the opacity, do you actually mean to lower the opacity on the brush, or just be really really light with the pen?

Thanks! Here's hoping I keep getting better. :D

(Here's one more message for you to reply to :nana:)
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~Khezix Jan 8, 2013   General Artist
They certainly are. :D

I draw a little bit each day, even if it's just a 20 minute sketch. But I have major issue with finishing projects. Just now, I created only half a character sheet for my OC Miri, then I ran off with some markers to draw a realistic Articuno. :crying: And when I compiled that "summary of 2012" thing, I had a hard time finding drawings for certain months because I only uploaded one or two drawings that month. starting this weekend, I'll try to finish one drawing each week. :)

You're doing good with the reflected light. Sometimes it's a matter of knowing how bold and sharp to make it, and that comes with observation of both the world around us and how other artists do it. Here's some good examples done by other artists: [link] [link] [link]
When viewing a picture I really like, I like to challenge myself by asking: What is the light source? Where is the reflected light? etc.. If you're not in the habit of doing that, I recommend starting with those three pictures. :D

Doing greyscale work is definitely a good idea. If you can make a picture work in greyscale, then it will work in color. If the picture doesn't work in greyscale, something went wrong; you can use color to cover it up, but color doesn't fix a broken picture.
I would actually lower the opacity of the brush itself, especially for a large blank space like the wing membrane - that's where rough brush strokes show through the most.

If you keep drawing, improvement will come. :)

(Yes, I noticed you gave me comment number 295. Thanks. xD )
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:iconzeimyth:
Oh, well then you're in a slightly different boat than I am. XD I find it much easier to commit 4-5 hours over a week than 20 minutes each day. Darn my busy schedule. :P You should really do it, though! Your art is so good, and I'd love to see more of it. :) Even if you just submit a 1-hour speedpaint each week like what you did for me so you could finish your drawings before your attention gets pulled away by another exciting drawing. :D

Hmm, I'll have to take some time and look at how those artists used reflected light, then. Just at a glance, I can see how important it is to consider the material that the light is reflecting on. I could do with paying more attention to textures and things like that. XD Thanks for the references. You're really good with those. :D

Whenever I think of good greyscale art, pictures like [link] always come to mind. He did almost the entire thing in grey and then used a difference layer to add all the color at once. At one point I tried to emulate that technique, but I really need to focus more on the smoothness of my drawings more. I really think I'm going to make that a focus for the next few drawings I do. Color is so much fun, but you're right, it can't fix a broken picture. XD I think a lot of my weaknesses right now come down to texture, lighting, and anatomy - all of which can be a focus in a greyscale picture.

(Woooooow.... Okay, that's a lot of messages to reply to. Er, good luck with that! ^^;)
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~Khezix Jan 11, 2013   General Artist
Aw thank you. I'm glad to hear that you like seeing my work. :) Finishing large-scale projects still take me a long time, and the more sittings a drawing takes me, the more likely I'll get distracted.

Texture is everything in reflected light. Metal and water will reflect more than rocks or wood. A lot of reflected light on a dragon may suggest that it has very shiny scales. Color will also to light differently: white reflects while black absorbs.

I noticed a lot of people use that technique. So far, I've been unable to master it. If you figure it out, tell me how to do it. xD
Anatomy is fun. :D That reminds me, I've been meaning to redo a sort of "tutorial" (more of a guide than a tutorial) on drawing dragon heads. A lot of people have faved it despite its ugliness... :stare:

I'm working it... I finally got my deviations from 2,000+ to just under 1,600 and my feedback messages are at 288. xD; I'm just so slow with my replies. This is probably why no one ever talks to me. :C
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What kind of time commitment do you consider a large-scale project? Maybe if you shot for a happy medium, like a drawing you can finish in one long sitting or two normal sittings. That way you could do more than just speedpaints but still be satisfied with a finished piece that didn't take you the entire week to produce. ;)

It's interesting, I can see a lot of your points in real life or in art done by others, but when it comes to actually doing it in my own art I just haven't figured it out yet. The same kinda goes with anatomy; I can do heads and necks fairly well, but the closer I get to the shoulders the more I end up fudging the drawing to get by. I guess I haven't really absorbed how these things are done yet. XD Perhaps part of the problem is I don't really know how to practice things like reflected light or anatomy without just doing a normal drawing and hoping that I'll pick it up eventually. ^^;

Well, for that picture at least, Chromamancer goes into some of the details behind how he did it here. Might be worth taking a look at that process picture, too.

I guess a guide/tutorial doesn't have to be pretty to be helpful. :D

I've never been that backed up with replies, but I returned from a long hiatus early last year to find over 10,000 deviations waiting for me... :faint: It took a looong time to clean that all up, especially because more and more keep getting added every day. Aw, whoever thinks slow replies are a good excuse to not talk with you is missing out!
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